L3Harris Technologies Inc (LHX) Q3 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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L3Harris Technologies Inc (NYSE:LHX)
Q3 2021 Earnings Call
Oct 29, 2021, 8:30 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Prepared Remarks
  • Questions and Answers
  • Call Participants

Prepared Remarks:

Operator

Greetings. Welcome to L3Harris Technologies Third Quarter Calendar Year 2021 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions]

It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Rajeev Lalwani, Vice President, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.

Rajeev LalwaniVice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, Rob. Good morning, and welcome to our Third Quarter 2021 Earnings Call. On the call with me today are Chris Kubasik, our CEO; and Jay Malave, our CFO. First, a few words on forward-looking statements and non-GAAP measures.

Forward-looking statements involve risks, assumptions and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For more information, please see our press release, presentation and SEC filings. A reconciliation of non-GAAP financial measures to comparable GAAP measures is included in the Investor Relations section of our website, which is l3harris.com, where a replay of this call will also be available.

With that, Chris, I’ll turn it over to you.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Okay, thank you, Rajeev, and good morning, everyone. As you have seen throughout the week, no company is immune including the L3Harris to global supply chain pressures, a risk we highlighted at the last earnings call. In recent months, shortages of electronic components began adversely impacting our company at a time when our product is strong. Our updated full-year guidance now accounts for these impacts. We’ve revised our organic revenue growth expectations to approximately 2% primarily due to delays for these components weighing on the CS segment.

Absent such delays, we would have comfortably been within our prior 3% to 5% range. Ultimately, this is a timing shift, with no anticipated effect on our industry-best market position for radios. And with our broad and diversified portfolio, along with continued execution elsewhere, especially on the margin front, we’ve increased our range on EPS to $12.85 to $13 per share and still expect to deliver free cash flow per share of around $14, up double-digit on both accounts.

Shifting over to the third quarter, following organic revenue growth of 6% in the second quarter, we saw a decline of 1% due to timing associated with supply chain delays at CS and in ISR aircraft award with IMS. While I’m disappointed by the soft top-line results, I’ll note that the order momentum remained strong with a book-to-bill of 1.07 and we delivered record-high margins at 19.6%. EPS was $3.21, up 13% versus the prior year with solid free cash flow of $673 million, that contributed to shareholder returns of $1.5 billion in the quarter.

Our execution against the company’s strategic priorities have been a key factor and value creation for all stakeholders, in spite of the pandemic, and we made progress in the quarter by advancing topline opportunities, improving operational performance, wrapping up portfolio shaping and returning capital to our owners. Starting with the top line, the revenue decline in the quarter fell short of our internal targets, largely due to two-timing factors. At CS, the global electronic component shortage has led to a supply chain disruption for our product and electronics-focused businesses notably tactical communications.

In the third quarter, the impact was nearly $100 million or approximately 2 points of revenue. And in the fourth quarter, our expectation is for the backlog of unfilled orders to grow and all told, we foresee a roughly $250 million to $300 million revenue impact for the year, implying another step down in the fourth quarter. This is a primary driver of our revenue guidance adjustment at CS.

Having said that, we do not anticipate any impact to our bookings nor our win rate and expect the segment to end the year with a book-to-bill well over 1 time. In addition, despite the supply chain challenges we faced in Q3 and ongoing headwinds, we were able to meet delivery requirements on all of our key US DoD modernization programs and are on track to continue to do so in the fourth quarter including deliveries on the recently awarded HMS full-rate production contract with the US Army.

Second, in IMS we had a follow-on ISR aircraft order with a NATO customer that booked late in the quarter, causing revenues to slip to Q4 representing roughly a 2.5 point shift between quarters. While the supply chain headwinds limit upside opportunities to our revenues for this year, I’ve been pleased with the team’s traction against our strategy of delivering end-to-end solutions to global militaries as a trusted disruptor across all domains, and it’s reflected in our order activity and operational milestones.

Within the space domain, on the classified side, we continued to advance our responsive and exquisite satellite business with several earlier stage awards, both with the Intel community and DoD which have follow-on opportunities of nearly $2 billion. And on the unclassified side following the Imager award in Q2, NOAA is progressing on the recapitalization of its GOES weather satellite system and awarded us a study contract for a sounder payload as part of a $3 billion opportunity over the next decade.

On the operational front, we completed the preliminary design review in the development of the missile tracking satellite prototype for the Space Development Agency, progressing toward the launch over the coming years and reflecting yet another significant accomplishment for L3Harris.

Moving to the air domain, key awards within the quarter spanned both legacy and next-generation aircraft. On the B-52, we received a 10-year $1 billion IDIQ that has the potential to expand our scope on the program to include EW hardware upgrades, such as radar warning receivers, building on our existing software sustainment work.

In addition, on the international front, we were awarded an initial $100 million contract to provide capabilities on 12 multi-mission aircraft to the UAE, with the potential to double these amounts, further demonstrating the breadth of our RSR capabilities that range from turboprops to business jets to larger aircraft.

And in the land domain, we were awarded several contracts with the US Army to advance its modernization priorities. Under the Army HMS program, we received over $200 million in awards for the Manpack and Leader radios taking a majority share on both products. These were the first full-rate production award out of a multi-billion dollar IDIQ and represents less than 15% of the acquisition objective pointing to considerable runway ahead.

We also won a majority share on the second program of record for the ENVG-B program with $100 million order setting us up to ramp production on the army’s next-generation field-ready Goggle. So we were three for three on strategically significant programs in the land domain this quarter. Within the maritime domain, the team continues to progress on the US Navy constellation class frigate with follow-on awards for the next ship sets of electrical propulsion and navigation systems as part of a several hundred million dollar opportunity for L3Harris.

We’re also awaiting decisions on two major prime awards over the coming months. One, to provide electro-optical infrared capabilities on a broad range of the US Navy surface combatants. And another within international allies highlighting our superior undersea sensor capabilities, both would expand our market reach in this domain. Operationally, the team delivered power conversion’s fleet hardware as part of the Virginia-class Block 5 upgrade and completed qualifications for a portion of the power distribution system on the Columbia class, advancing the US Navy’s top priority.

We also had a key award within our Mission Networks business. We leveraged the Air Traffic Management capabilities we provide to the FAA winning a new international franchise with the Australian government to modernize the nation’s air traffic control and surveillance networks. This program is over $300 million opportunity and strengthens L3Harris’s long-standing relationship with Australia.

Finally, we received a strategic award on the revenue synergy front as we signed a $130 million contract with the Mid-East customer to provide modernized software-defined radios through a localized joint venture. And this customer channel synergy award opens the door to a long-term opportunity for up to 50,000 radios. When combined with other orders in the quarter, revenue synergy awards to date totaled roughly $900 million on the win rate that remains at 70%. With a pipeline of over $7 billion, these synergies will be a notable contributor to our top line growth.

These wins supported another strong quarter for a book-to-bill of 1.07 and 1.06 times year-to-date, increasing our organic backlog to $21 billion or up 9% from last year and 4% year-to-date. This is a validation of our internal investments in leading R&D spend, as well as confirmation of our alignment with government priorities.

Shifting over to the outlook for budgets, we’re pleased with the progress made on the FY ’22 defense spending bills. They continue to prioritize near-peer threats notwithstanding another CR. The plus-ups from the HASK, SAFC and SAC-D along with steadiness from HAQ-T [Phonetic] combined with recent global events provide a degree of comfort that we should expect stability in military spending over the coming years. And in my personal discussions with senior leadership of the administration and Congress, I have consistently heard of a growing need for innovative resilience and affordable solutions, which we’re focused on providing.

All in all, as we consider the trajectory of our top line, we remain confident in our ability to deliver sustainable growth through our domestic positioning, revenue synergies and international expansion that stem from a pipeline of opportunities, well in excess of $100 billion.

Pivoting to margin performance, our team delivered a stellar quarter at 19.6%, the best post merger results and an indication of the company’s potential over the next couple of years as we further build a culture of operational excellence. Our performance was the result of delivering another $15 million of incremental cost synergies and we’re well on track to hit our $350 million targets.

We continue to manage our overhead costs and drive our E3 program to more than offsetting supply chain headwinds, due primarily to our year-to-date results, we now see margins for 2021, exceeding our prior expectation of 18.5% by 25 basis points. Beyond 2021, our E3 program will remain a key contributor to steady expansion in our operating margins, net of inflationary pressures. This program is one of our key discriminators, and let me highlight just a couple of examples.

First is factory optimization that represents half of this opportunity set through streamlining and simplifying our manufacturing processes, be it from a redesign of our factories layout for integrating automation tools, we can shorten cycle times, increase labor efficiency and continue to drive our cost. A great example is a pilot program in our Amityville facility in New York. We’re in augmented reality assembly aid that electronically displays and validates our processes, helps reduce cycle time by 25% and higher first-pass yields by several points. And we’re in the early stages of the strategy with the three-year rollout ahead of us.

The other half of our opportunity comes from the engineering excellence and supply chain on the former through the deployment of our digital ecosystem, front-loading our program activities, and enhancing training for our roughly 20,000 engineers and 1500 program managers, we’re able to increase commonality and better manage cost and schedule across the company. These have been key with some of our stand out wins within the space domain enabling a foray into missile defense as well as with driving favorability in our EACs.

On supply chain, the global disruption we’ve highlighted have been largely contained to about 15% of the company and are temporary in nature. The focus we’ve had be it on reducing the number of suppliers or leveraging our roughly $7.5 billion spend as an enterprise remain in place with further opportunities in the years ahead.

Moving over to the portfolio, we put a bow on the post-merger shaping activities in the quarter and closed on the Electron Devices divestiture for $185 million while announcing the sale of two small businesses within AS for a combined $130 million, bringing total gross proceeds since the merger to $2.8 billion. And as we consider our portfolio moving forward, we’ll be opportunistic with our balance sheet as a buyer and a seller focusing on long-term growth and value creation.

Having said that, we don’t see any gaps in the portfolio, nor is there any urgency at this time. Consistent with our prior commitments, proceeds from the divestitures will be part of our capital return program. Our expectation now is for buybacks to be roughly $3.6 billion this year versus our prior $3.4 billion. When combined with dividends, capital returns will be about $4.5 billion in 2021. So overall, I’m pleased with the L3Harris team’s ability to execute against our strategic priorities and deliver bottom line results despite unanticipated setbacks.

With that, I’ll hand it over to Jay.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Chris, and good morning, everyone. First, and starting on Slide 4, I’ll provide more detail on the quarter before I get into segment results and our updated outlook. In the quarter organic revenue was down 1% lower than our internal expectations by about 4.5 points from the supply chain delays and ISR aircraft award timing.

IMS and CS were down 3% and 5% respectively, and absent these impacts would have been up closer to the mid-single-digit range for both. The SAS segment was up 3% and led by strong growth in our responsive Space business, while AS was up 1% including the benefit from recovery in commercial aerospace. Margins expanded 170 basis points to 19.6% with the most notable drivers being from E3 performance and cost management, which more than offset volume-related supply chain headwinds. We exceeded our internal expectations by more than 100 basis points from favorable mix related to award timing and strong E3 performance.

The team continues to drive margin upside by delivering on E3 improvements that lead to outperformance in scheduled milestones costs and retirement of risk. These drivers along with our share repurchase activity drove EPS up 13% or $0.37 to $3.21 as shown on Slide 5. Of this growth synergies and operations contributed $0.39, lower share count contributed another $0.20 and pension and tax accounted for the remaining $0.08 then more than offset a $0.14 headwind from divested earnings and a $0.16 headwind from supply chain delays. Free cash flow was $673 million and we ended the quarter steady with working capital days at 56. This supported robust shareholder returns of $1.5 billion, comprised of $1.3 billion in share repurchases and $202 million in dividends.

Now let’s turn to Slide 6 and discuss quarterly segment results. Integrated Mission Systems revenue was down 3% driven by follow on ISR aircraft award timing from the NATO customer that would have contributed 8 points of growth for which revenue has now been booked in October. Revenue was also impacted by the expected timing of WESCAM turret deliveries from a completed facility move.

By contrast, our maritime business grew in the mid-single digits from a ramp on key platforms including the constellation class frigate and classified programs. Operating income was up 4% and margins expanded 110 basis points to 16.6% from operational excellence, integration benefits and pension. Funded book-to-bill was 1.04 in the quarter and 1.05 year-to-date with strength across the segment.

In Space and Airborne Systems, revenue increased 3% driven by double-digit growth in space, primarily from our ramping missile defense and other responsive programs. The space growth was more than offset — from the production transition — I’m sorry the Space program more than offset headwinds from the production transition of the F-35 Tech Refresh 3 program within Mission Avionics, as well as program timing and electronic warfare, and Intel & Cyber.

We expect an overall ramp in the quarter — in the fourth quarter for the segment. Operating income was up 5% and margins expanded 30 basis points to 18.8% as E3 performance, increased pension income and integration benefits more than offset higher R&D investments and mix impacts from growth programs such as in space. And funded book to bill was about 1 for the quarter and 1.05 year-to-date, driven by responsive and other space awards.

Next, Communication Systems organic revenue was down 5% due primarily to product delivery delays within tactical communications that stemmed from the global electronic component shortages, creating an approximately 8.0 headwind year-over-year and versus expectations, as well as lower volume for our legacy unmanned platforms in broadband due to the transition from permissive to contested operating environments.

In addition, the integrated vision and global communication solutions businesses were impacted by delivery timing and contract roll-offs on international programs, respectively. Conversely, our public safety business was up double digits versus the prior year and sequentially, and strong radio sales following the State of Florida Law Enforcement System award in the prior quarter.

Operating income decreased to 1% and margins expanded 130 basis points to 26.3%. From operational excellence, including program performance within broadband, favorable mix on public safety radios and integration benefits that outweighed supply chain impacts and higher R&D investments. And funded book-to-bill was above 1.1 for both the quarter and year-to-date from strong product bookings within tactical communications and in Integrated Vision for modernization alongside key state-level awards within public safety.

Finally, in Aviation Systems, organic revenue increased 1%, by our commercial aerospace business that was up over 40% from recovering training and air transport OEM product sales. This growth was weighed down by flattish sales in mission networks, as well as lower fusing and ordinance systems volume due to contract roll-offs along with the late awards within defense aviation.

Operating income decreased 13% primarily due to divestitures while margins expanded 140 basis points to 14.4% and expense management, the commercial aerospace recovery and integration benefits more than offset divestiture related headwinds. And funded book-to-bill was 1.1 for the quarter and about 0.9 year-to-date.

Now shifting to our updated 2021 outlook. Organic revenue is now anticipated to be up about 2% with the different versus our prior guide largely attributable to supply chain delays. At a segment level, we maintained our sales guides but foresee us, where we now anticipate revenue to be down 2.5% to 4.5% versus our prior range of up 2.5% to 4.5%. This is largely due to the global supply chain disruptions mainly within tactical communications, that will now be down about 10% versus our prior view of up in the low to mid-single digits.

For the remaining segments, we expect IMS to be in the upper half of the range based on traction with international ISR aircraft while SAS will likely be around the midpoint and driven by growth within Space and Intel & Cyber. And at AS, we expect the segment to be at the lower end of the range due to award timing slipping to the fourth quarter within our classified business. By end market, our US government and commercial businesses are now expected to be flattish to up in the low single digits, while our international businesses are expected to be up mid-single digits plus. This implies fourth quarter sales growth will be in the 1% to 2% range for the company, which includes CS down in the mid-teens, and our other segments up in the mid to high single-digits on average.

Turning to margins, we’ve raised our outlook to 18.75% from 18.5%, due to performance to date E3 progress and favorable mix from award timing. Margins will step back in the fourth quarter due to increased supply chain delays along with mixed effects on new earlier-stage programs, but still strong progress for the full year.

From a segment perspective, we’ve improved the outlook for each with CS above the prior midpoint of its range and IMS, SAS, and AS above the top end of the prior ranges. On EPS we are raising the lower end of the prior guide by $0.05 to $12.85 to $13 per share, reflecting 11% growth from 2020 at the midpoint. Delivering on our double-digit aspiration in spite of dilution from divestitures and supply chain headwinds, which otherwise would have put us at or above the top end.

As shown on Slide 11, the midpoint is now at $12.93 and $0.55 from improvement in operations and other items, including the release of contingencies, offset additional divested earnings about $0.03 and $0.49 from supply chain delays. As mentioned previously, we continue to expect about $0.15 of net dilution from divestitures.

Moving to free cash flow, our guide of 2.8% to 2.9% remains intact. However, due to prior divestiture headwinds and now supply chain delays of over $150 million in the aggregate, we’ll likely be toward the lower end. On working capital, we expect to end the year in the low ’50s in terms of days, reflecting a three to five-day sequential improvement in the fourth quarter, and capex is now expected to be around $350 million, about $15 million lower versus the prior expectation primarily from completed divestitures.

Lastly, our guidance now reflects approximately $3.6 billion in share repurchases, an increase of $200 million from our prior guide to account for net proceeds from recently closed divestitures. Net of these puts and takes, we’re in a position to deliver free cash flow per share in the double digits in 2021.

Okay, let me make a few comments on 2022. The L3Harris business fundamentals are sound and we continue to succeed in our strategy of moving up the value chain to capture more prime positions on core and adjacent applications. Examples include our leadership positions in space missile tracking, ISR aircraft Missionization, DoD and international soldier modernization, undersea sensing, and cyber resiliency. These and others will lead to solid growth for the foreseeable future.

As we look specifically at 2022, we are expecting the supply chain impacts to persist into the first half of next year with recovery starting in the back half. As visibility improves over the coming months, we will provide a more comprehensive update on these expectations in January. For now, we are expecting some of the shortfall to be recovered by the end of next year and we’ll monitor other watch items including the timing of awards, vaccine mandates, and tax rules. Having said that, we remain focused on delivering sustainable revenue growth, steady to rising margins, and leading cash flow conversion on a declining share count.

So to sum it all up, we’ve managed the pandemic-related headwinds for seven straight quarters and delivered strong bottom-line performance, and remain on track to meet our commitments for the year and beyond in a dynamic environment.

With that, Rob, let’s open up the line for questions.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question is from Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies. Please proceed with your question.

Sheila KahyaogluJefferies — Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, Chris, Jay, Rajeev. Jay, you detailed us right there. So I have to ask in terms of the recent guides we saw from peers in both supply chain issues and program headwinds they noted, how are you guys thinking about 2022 revenue growth to capex on the multi-year revenue outlook just given you’ve previously talked about mid-single digits and now peers are calling for flat to low single-digit growth?

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Hey, good morning, Sheila. It’s Chris. I think, let me make a couple of comments and then I’ll hand it over to Jay. And I think you said it right. This is clearly the key question for the week. So I want to go back probably three years when we were talking about the strategic rationale for the merger and there were two items of note that I want to go back and reinforce. And one was the complementary nature of the two businesses and after the merger, how we’re well-positioned in all five domains.

So when you look at the threat environment which changes on a regular basis, if you look about and read a lot about China, China, China, I mean our positioning in space and maritime I think puts us in a good position to support the warfighter or cyber capabilities really are applicable, not only in China but all conflicts.

Like what we’ve done in the air domain, while there is applicability on China, it also allows for situational awareness globally, and I think that’s critical as we look beyond just the China threat. And the land domain is still a key part of our national security strategy especially with the focus on resilient comms. So I like the fact that we’re well-positioned in all these domains and I think you see that reflected in our results and we’re going to tell you a little bit about 2022.

The other one was the revenue synergies. And again, like most of the goals that we set on this merger, we’re ahead of schedule, and as I said, just a few minutes ago $900 million of orders earlier than we thought and I think there is a lot more to come. So the framework that we laid out three years ago and I’ve talked about each year remains the same, we think we’re well-positioned with the DoD and all domains. We have a great revenue synergy opportunity and process. And our international growth has been the bright spot over the last couple of years.

So as you would expect, we’re going through our strategic planning process. As of today, I see all four segments growing in 2022 with the overall company coming in the low to mid-single digits on an organic growth basis, we’ll obviously give you more details in January. But let me hand it over to Jay to maybe give you more detail by sector and also emphasize the $800 million of headwinds as a result of divestitures when you’re doing your comparison. So Jay?

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Thanks, Chris. And just to follow up on that and maybe just a little more color on next year, when you think about low to mid-single-digit framework for next year, what I’ll do is I’ll maybe just take you around the horn of our segments. And I think Chris said it well, as far as broad growth across the portfolio. I’ll start with IMS and this year we had a guide of 4 to 6 we said, that will be probably toward the upper end this year. And we see a lot of the same going into 2022, that we’ve seen here in 2021. The ISR business is up, been a strong grower for us. But on the back of international aircraft missionization, we will see fewer aircraft procurement inputs next year. But that will be more than offset by the ramp in actual throughput related to missionization in the aircraft.

You may recall that Chris in the second quarter call talked about 19 aircraft in various stages of missionization, so that will be a source of growth for that business. And that business can certainly deliver low to mid-single-digit growth next year, if not more. On the EO business within IMS, Chris mentioned a few words on electro-optical sensors for the Navy, we’re bullish on that, that would be a source of growth for us next year. And again very capable of being able to deliver low to mid-single-digit next year.

And the final business within IMS is maritime. Maritime has had a strong record over the past — really since the merger. And we see more of the same there as well. We talk about the constellation class frigate, we’ve won some awards on the classified undersea sensors and we continue to expand our capabilities and applications in Maritime and we expect that to deliver to frankly mid to high single-digit growth next year.

And so when you look at that segment in total, it’s very well positioned to do a low to mid-single-digit, if not more. When you look at our Space and Airborne Systems, very similar, we continue to expect space to grow as it did this year, and so you would see something in the — maybe in the range of mid to high single-digit growth there. Same thing with Intel & Cyber, we continue to see growth and demand in the classified areas of both of those businesses. That will be tempered a bit by our airborne businesses we’ve seen this year that the transition of particularly in mission avionics on the F-35 from development to production, we’ll see that again next year, as well as some transit program transitions on the electronic warfare, particularly in the F-16 program. But nonetheless, even with a flattish to slightly down business in the airborne, we’ll see the Space & Intel carry that segment forward very easily being able to deliver something like in the low to mid-single digits.

I’ll go next to maybe AS and the remaining businesses that we have there. The commercial aero business has moved pretty much in line with the commercial aerospace industry. We continue to expect traffic growth next year and we expect that business to grow in line with that. So you can expect to see some double-digit growth in that business.

Mission networks, Chris mentioned the Australia award that will be a source of growth for us next year and again really in the low to mid-single-digit range there. And then our defense aviation is seeing a little bit of the delays related to award timing. But even with a flat projection for next year that business can deliver — that segment can deliver low to mid-single-digit growth.

And then finally, CS. We talked about tech and the supply chain pressures there. This year that business will be down about 10%. And we see — if you think about SATCOM, we expect growth even next year of the lower base that we have this year. This year we’re going to be impacted in the third and the fourth quarter, we expect to be impacted again in the first and the second quarter with recovery in the back half. With that recovery in the back half, we believe the business can grow in that low to mid-single-digit baseline from this year. And it’s really similar to the BCS business, our Broadband business, our Integrated Vision Solutions business, and PSPC which will also just benefit from industry recovery.

And so, as Chris mentioned, again I’ll close it out, we really see broad-based growth in a low to mid-single-digit kind of initial framework is the right way to look at it really across the portfolio. And one last thing, Chris mentioned about $800 million, it’s right, on a reported basis we’ll see about $800 million of revenue headwind due to the divestitures next year.

But again, starting with the organic really low to mid-single-digit is probably the best place for us to be until we solidify our expectations and we’ll do that in January for you. So hopefully, I went around the horn and give you some color, within each of the segments. And really gave you the source of why we feel confident and are gaining confidence in our ability to deliver that type of growth.

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Robert Stallard with Vertical Research. Please proceed with your question.

Robert StallardVertical Research — Analyst

Thanks so much. Good morning.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Robert StallardVertical Research — Analyst

Thanks for that detail, Jay. That was very helpful. The question I have though is around supply chain. Obviously, you’re facing a few issues at the moment. I was wondering what your plans are to mitigate these pressures over the next, say six to 12 months, and what the implications could be for, say, your revenues and margins? Thanks so much.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

All right. Thanks, Rob. Let me kick it off and again, Jay will give you some more details on the numbers. I think you really hit as we were preparing for this call over the last few days when Jay said that we’ve been through seven quarters of the pandemic, I mean it’s probably then a blur for all of us. But we really started back in February of 2020 focusing on the supply chain challenge, just eight months after we closed the merger we set up our COVID war room, and the real focus there was on the first-tier suppliers that we had in the Far East.

Obviously, since then we’ve learned a lot about the second, third, and fourth-tier suppliers and some of the risks in the chain, and the resiliency. So I just want to acknowledge that this is something we’ve looked at for seven quarters, of course, we shifted — and I would ever say we always focus on the supply chain. We added in remote working, IT connections, vaccines all the challenges that we’ve gone through in the pandemic. So it’s been a little bit of a roller coaster. But the key is been getting our systems consolidated from the merger, getting data, getting visibility and all of that has improved over the last several quarters.

So I think that what gives us confidence to kind of make some of the projections and talk in a little more detail today. Back in early August, we were probably feeling much better about the year and August was the high point for the Delta variant spiking around the globe and that really kind of through the delays that we’re seeing for the rest of the year.

So we’re assuming and our baseline is kind of a 12-month delay until things get back to normal with the supply chain, I know there’s different time frames out there. But that’s kind of the baseline that we’re focused on. I will mention as a defense contractor, we have the benefit of what’s known as deep past ratings, which are the defense priorities and allocation system. And that’s something we’ve been focused on the last several quarters and even on the other end of it the supply chain, a lot of our suppliers are aware of this and are still putting in systems and implementing it. But, they’ve been very supportive in prioritizing our defense products. And I think that’s given us a little more confidence and visibility. So, but that is kind of an overview.

I’ll ask Jay to maybe give you some of the details on the numbers.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. Just maybe a couple of other items that we’re pretty focused on. Rob, obviously I think we’re probably no different than others in terms of making longer-term commitments of 12, 18, 24 months in certain cases, we’ve redeployed resources to make sure we’re managing this at lower tiers in the electronic component value chain.

And we secured alternative sources as well as alternative parts and qualify them. We were redesigning parts and products on electronic components to really ensure that we can have adequate source of supply going into next year and we’re making crop progress across each of these areas, which again is why we’re gaining confidence that we’ll be able to grow in this business next year. As far as supply chain, specifically, supply chain escalation is certainly going to be a cost for us. When you think about 2022, right now the way I’m thinking about is about 25 basis points of margin pressure associated with escalation costs. I would say that that’s something that we’re considering, that’s something that we’ve got baked in, and that’s something that will be part of our plans to deliver on our E3 productivity.

Our goal will be as it always is to offset the headwinds from mix, as well as supply chain and deliver at least flat margins if not higher. The next year will be no different, the pressure is going to be a little bit higher. But nonetheless, we believe that we’re going to have a solid path to be able to offset it.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is coming from the line of Seth Seifman with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.

Seth SeifmanJPMorgan — Analyst

Thanks very much. Good morning, everyone. I guess if I could slip in kind of two quick ones here. Either for Chris or for Jay, if you could just address maybe cash flow next year, your $3 billion target, and thoughts on cash flow growth per share thereafter? And then maybe Jay, the guidance for the integration costs, kind of stepping up, seems to imply a fairly high level in the fourth quarter relative to what we’ve seen in the past. So maybe what’s driving that at this point and where do those go from here on out? Thanks.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Okay. I’ll maybe take in reverse order, Seth. On the integration costs, we actually saw a step up here in the third quarter, we’ll see a little bit higher again here in the fourth quarter. It’s really mainly due to two things. One is, as we work through our facility consolidations, we’ve seen an uptick in cost. We expect to see continued spending in that area, probably through mid-year next year as we complete those factory consolidations.

The other element is really IT harmonization, we’ve talked a lot about harmonizing our ERP systems. There we’re — just various systems beyond just our ERPs, we’ve been working through and incurring the cost on related to integration that will carry over, I would expect it to next year as well some for a period of time. Again, probably through the first six months.

And your question on $3 billion of free cash flow, for us the formula really remains the same. We need to deliver annually and including next year about three to four days reduction in working capital and that will offset the growth that otherwise would take place in working capital from just increased use of assets. And so if we’re able to do that, we should be able to at least hold the working capital flat if not become a source of income or source of cash flow, and then we can have that added to drug drop through of net income.

And so really remains the same. As far as our working capital when you go back and look, we’ve got — we ended the quarter at 56 days. We’ve got seven sectors who are above that average, which comprises about two-thirds of our working capital. A lot of that is sitting in inventory, and we’ve talked about this in the past and we’re really, again, it’s just blocking and tackling, focusing on fundamentals as far as inventory reduction. These include things like just ensure that we execute against our program milestones, we’re synchronizing our forecasting and planning with our supply chain.

We continue to work and Chris mentioned it on cycle time reductions and automation in the factory, as well as just negotiating better terms of our contracts, getting more advances, where you looking maybe compared to some of our other peers their percentage of advance is a little bit higher than ours, and so that creates an opportunity for us to ensure that we can match that cash receipts with cash disbursements on the inventory side. So we’re opportunity-rich here, two-third of our working capital is prime for us to continue to work down, we feel good about that. And look from a free cash flow per share, we’re very confident in double-digit growth there for the foreseeable future.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I’ll just chime in real quick on the integration cost. With the pandemic, we stayed agile and made some changes to strategies. And I’ll just say in the IT world, we had laid out architecture and with the need for remote work and hybrid work, we reprioritized and made some changes, which caused us to accelerate some of our expenditures in Q3, Q4. Same thing applied to supply chain, we had a whole strategy and one of those was to at the end of ’22, start investing in the risk dashboard to give us more visibility into our supply chain and identify risks using publicly available data whether stops such as wildfires or financial stability of the supply chain, we obviously accelerated that into this year and are rolling that out in Q3 and Q4. So some of those things, it seem to make business sense to increase the cost and accelerate the expenditures based on what was going on.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Richard Safran with Seaport Research. Please proceed with your question.

Richard SafranSeaport Research — Analyst

Chris, Jay, Rajeev, good morning.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Richard SafranSeaport Research — Analyst

I thought — I wanted to ask you about two of your programs if I might. First that recent GAO decision on the Next-Gen Jammer, I’m curious as to what happens now, if you think the program gets recompeted do you think changes are made to the program. And the second program I like to ask about is the F-35. We had some long-term guidance come from Lockheed this week. I was just kind of curious if you could discuss a bit, how you think that might impact you, where that was relative to expectations that sort of thing?

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Sure, Rich, good morning. Let me go with your Next-Gen Jammer question. I mean, just to refresh everyone’s memory, we won that program back in December of 2020, almost a year ago. The Navy has affirmed three times their choice to select L3Harris, including most recently using an independent reviewer. So there’s been a lot of media, a lot of discussion on this, we were very proud of the fact that we were rated technically outstanding and that’s aligned with our strategy in the R&D investments that we’ve made and moved up the food chain.

So I think we just let the process proceed, it’s somewhere between the Navy and Department of Justice and the other company as to what they’re going to do next. But our team is ready, there was a stop-work order put in place, which is pretty standard and whenever that’s decided to be listed, we’re ready to go or whatever other legal actions occur. But again, we’re very confident in our solution, as is the Navy as they continue to reaffirm their selection. So we’ll standby and look forward to supporting the Warfighter when we can get started.

F-35, I think we’ve talked about this on every call, let me give you a quick update. We’re obviously a key player on the F-35. We have a strong position on the platform about $3 million per ship set, our overall F-35 revenue is decreasing in ’21, decreasing in ’22, and then starts to grow again in ’23. That’s really a result of the TR3 transition from a development to production and where that may differ a little bit from what you saw from the prime is the fact that we’ll be retrofitting several hundred aircraft. So that’s what allows us to grow in ’23 and beyond, not only we’re going forward with the new aircraft, we’re also going to retrofit. And again the main focus for us is the AMS, the Aircraft Memory System we just completed the safety of flight certifications so that was quite exciting. A lot of positive emails from Lockheed and the customers, so good progress on AMS.

The Panoramic Cockpit Display is entering qualification testing and then of course the Integrated Core processor is the most complex, and again we’re making progress there. Everybody understands the critical path and as we’ve always said, the hard parts are ahead of us here as the integration testing is going on. So I think, as I’ve said in the last several quarters, the teamwork is much better than I’ve ever seen, everybody is aligned, everybody understands the goals, the challenges on the critical path. And we’re honored to be on that platform and look forward to delivering on our commitments.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Gautam Khanna with Cowen and Company. Please proceed with your question.

Gautam KhannaCowen and Company — Analyst

Yeah. Thanks, good morning, guys.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Gautam KhannaCowen and Company — Analyst

I was wondering if you could give us some color on the tactical RF backlog, where it stands now, kind of the longer-term outlook in that business I know you gave a view on ’22, but just longer term, what do you have in the pipeline, both domestically and foreign. And yeah, any color you can provide there? Thanks.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, let me take the first shot at this one. Well, first of all, we have a record backlog of $1.2 billion and that’s the best we had in the past 10 years. So relative to that, there is no issue relative to demand and book-to-bill in the quarter was 1.7 year-to-date, we’re almost at 1.2. So there is absolutely zero issue with the demand, I highlighted some of the significant wins that we had recently with the Army. You’re well aware of those large IDIQs and how there is a lot of runway to go relative to those.

So we’re feeling really good on the demand and the outlook, we’re going to see growth in ’22 internationally. I think that continues to be lots of interest for this year. Asia-Pacific region and Central and Latin America are growing, Europe and the Mid-East as a little flat. But as we look further out in ’23 and beyond, I see that trend switching, so I think, Jay, did a good job.

But just highlighting that, we look like — we do about $400, if I go back to 2020, we’re doing about $450 million roughly per quarter in revenue. In ’21, the first two quarters due to our growth we were closer to $475 million, third quarter we came in at $400 million and the fourth quarter we’re probably going to be in that $300 million to $400 million range depending on supply chain. I see that trend continuing for the first two quarters of next year, the $300 million to $400 million range and then maybe ramping up to $500 million plus for the second half of ’22 and the first two-quarters of ’23 will make up for the shortfall.

So trying to give you some color there based on what we see in backlog, and the opportunities that we have around the globe. So I don’t know, Jay if there’s more detail?

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, maybe just a little bit. Chris mentioned I think in his remarks as well as far as a Middle East customer, what we have here, these are $1 billion-plus type opportunities with this Middle East customer as well as in the U.K. and Australia.

And what we’ve been able to do in each case is win front-end type of contracts. And so right now, with this particular country we won about 5,000 radios that could be potential up to 50,000 radios over a number of years. And so being on the front end we look to position us well for that longer-term opportunity.

The same thing goes with the U.K., we just won an opportunity to do Tech Refresh on current radios, and that positions us well for what could be also another opportunity of 50,000 radios, $1 billion plus program. And similarly Australia, we’re looking at potentially 35,00 radios. And our ballpark, we also won an opportunity there to do some crypto modernization on installed base. And so winning these early awards puts us and positions us very well for these long-term large programs in each of these countries. We’ve got the DoD opportunity coming up on either this quarter or next quarter with the Marine Corps, we feel confident in our positioning there and our product offering for that and so we’re confident and bullish about the opportunities for other tactical radio going — radio business going forward and are positioning us well.

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Kristine Liwag with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question.

Kristine LiwagMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Kristine LiwagMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Chris, segment margins were 19.5% in the quarter. I mean rounding at that 20% margin you’ve been targeting, but your full-year 2021 guide implies a step down in 4Q. So can you provide more details and the puts and takes and how we should think about margins going into 2022? I know it’s too early for the 2022 guide, but is 20% affortable?

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Well, it’s good to see on a Friday, nobody has lost their sense of humor. So, no, it’s — as I said earlier, everything is related to the merger is going quicker and better than maybe anyone had expected or planned and we’ve talked about our 25 basis point increase year-over-year. So the way I look at it is, we’re a year or two ahead of that target, and the goal for ’22 and beyond will be at a minimum maintain these margins, but look for ways to increase it.

I mean some of the things that contributed — and I’ll let Jay give you more details on Q3. We’ve really been focusing on our discretionary spend, the SG&A, I think this is one of our lower quarters since the merger as a percent of revenue. We continue to invest in IRAD at about 4% of revenue, which I think has been positioning us for this growth that we talked about going forward.

And the mix from these new awards, we talked about some of these awards being delayed, I think most of these new awards initially are dilutive to margins as you win especially if they are cost-plus or even if their fixed price just being conservative. So, but those slipping into Q4, I think that accounts for some of the shift between the two quarters. But we look at it kind of on an annual basis and year-over-year progress is looking good. And we’re not going to give up and we’re going to continue with our E3 initiatives. I mean the E3 focus is really what’s making the difference. And I tried to highlight some of the things we’re doing relative to labor productivity, I mean we’re using collaborative robots and augmented reality and some interesting technology that’s just going to get our products to market quicker.

We’ve talked about the supply chain and some of the things we’re doing there, value engineering, more and more focused on making our products even more manufacturable. We talk about designing for manufacture, design for supply chain, all those initiatives are ongoing and getting better each and every time. So, I don’t know Jay, if there is further color you want to give.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. Just on Q4, as you mentioned, we will see some just new awards, which have lower margins on it. And then the tactical communication business steps down in Q4. So I’ll put pressure on the margins from a business mix perspective, and so that’s really the driver for Q4.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Doug Harned with Bernstein. Please proceed with your question.

Doug HarnedBernstein — Analyst

Good morning, thank you.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Good morning.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Good morning.

Doug HarnedBernstein — Analyst

You’ve talked a lot about supply chain today and a lot of companies have — lot of industrial companies, whether they’re in defense and not have talked about it, but I’d like to — what I want to understand is, the supply chain issues have clearly held you back some in Communication Systems this year and you talked about the first half of next year. But unlike some commercial businesses, I wouldn’t expect any of the deliveries and revenues that you were expecting to have gone away. And when do you think forward, should we expect a snapback eventually here, where you’ve just — you’ve built up, you’ve got a building up of sort of a backlog of demand and we should actually see a — well I would think that was kind of a surge when we get into 2023 when you’re finally delivering on things that have been delayed.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. No, Doug, that’s great, great question. I think you hit it. I try to maybe too suddenly suggested this is a timing impact. And I think you’re absolutely right. What we’re seeing is these deliveries basically being deferred or sliding to the right, about 25% of our business, we forecast to demand, the rest we forecast a program which is easier to do and less risky. So on the quick turn or the more product businesses, you’re forecasting demand. Jay mentioned, we’re now making commitments 12 to 18 months out versus a couple of months, it’s in advance like we used to in the past.

So when you look at the supply chain challenges to the extent it’s a product or something that we recognize revenue upon delivery, you’re absolutely right, you’ll see that is a bow wave. A majority of our company and I think the whole industry uses percent complete or overtime accounting. So in that case you’re maybe not going to see the revenue hit, but what you’re going to see as a potential delay and ultimately making a delivery, which may cause companies to miss their milestones, which could be pressure on billing and cash to the extent it’s tied to a milestone event.

So I think you’re absolutely right. We view this as a delay and a deferral. I mentioned the ability to use the d-path ratings to get our parts, and as I mentioned, we haven’t missed any commitments relative to our contracts and that’s something that’s very important to all of us, and we’ll continue to find ways to deliver to those commitments.

The revenue shortfall was our focus on overdriving and challenging the team to get year-over-year growth. But as far as the contracts, we’re tracking and we’re in constant communication with all of our customers and they understand where we are. So I don’t know if that helps you Doug, but that’s long way of saying I agree with you.

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Doug, you got it exactly right. I mean 2022 I mentioned it would grow. We’d love it to snap back in 2022 but that’s unlikely. But we would expect that recovery to be in ’23.

Operator

Thank you. Our final question comes from the line of Peter Arment with Baird. Please proceed with your question.

Peter ArmentBaird — Analyst

Thanks, good morning, Chris, Jay. Hey Chris, thanks for all the details on the kind of progress you’re making on E3. But kind of just tying back to your comments that you’ve been operating in seven quarters of the pandemic, that feel like internally. But did — you set up the E3 program before the pandemic. Did you get any kind of opportunities that evolved during the last seven quarters where you think there is significantly more upside than you can do from the kind of the $350 million target that you’ve put out there? Thanks.

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. Peter, the $350 million target we throughout was the cost synergies from the merger. So we’ll be kind of putting a bow on that here in the next few quarters and we’ve over-driven the synergies that we laid out. Anything post the merger synergies will just count toward the E3 program. I think we’ve learned a lot as I’ve said, relative to the pandemic, how we do business. And I didn’t really get the focus on international as an example and it’s still amazing to me that we’re effectively double-digit on international growth and it’s probably the worst time ever to do business internationally during the pandemic.

But I think we learn a lot as to how to better use our time, I’ve been on all sorts of Zoom calls, Strange hours of the day to connect with customers. And if you have those prior relationships, that’s still going to be beneficial to get on an airplane and see people face-to-face. But I think we’ve been able to find a way to do business more effectively. We’re going to have about 10% of the workforce working remotely permanently and have about 20% doing hybrid.

So those are all new and different ways to do business. And we’re excited about the future, having less people in the facilities we’ve been able to go ahead and make some of the changes I highlighted in the factory and go ahead with the — some of the robots that we are using, some of these light guide tools, it’s just easier to get those things done. Jay mentioned the facility consolidation. We probably lost a little bit of time as you would imagine, due to the pandemic, no one being vaccinated, and the difficulty of getting labor, but now we’re picking that pace back up again. So we see this is really being the differentiator something that’s in our DNA and something that everybody is engaged with. So thank you for the question, Peter.

I guess with that we’ll just kind of wrap it up for the day. So obviously, I’d like to recognize our 47,000 employees who are focused on delivering value for our stakeholders and they continue to overcome the unprecedented challenges presented by the pandemic, their resilience combined with the many opportunities ahead keep me, Jay and the whole leadership team excited about the future of L3Harris. So I thank you for joining the call and look forward to talking to you again in January. Have a great week. Thanks.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

Duration: 62 minutes

Call participants:

Rajeev LalwaniVice President, Investor Relations

Christopher E. KubasikVice Chair and Chief Executive Officer

Jesus MalaveSenior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sheila KahyaogluJefferies — Analyst

Robert StallardVertical Research — Analyst

Seth SeifmanJPMorgan — Analyst

Richard SafranSeaport Research — Analyst

Gautam KhannaCowen and Company — Analyst

Kristine LiwagMorgan Stanley — Analyst

Doug HarnedBernstein — Analyst

Peter ArmentBaird — Analyst

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